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Climb Milling vs. Conventional Milling: Their Key Differences

Xomety X
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Team Xometry
 16 min read
Published June 7, 2024
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Milling is a very common subtractive manufacturing technique that involves a rotating cutter moving across a stationary workpiece to shape it. One of the many decisions machinists face is choosing between climb milling and conventional milling. This choice significantly influences the quality, efficiency, and outcome of the milling process. The key differences between these two methods include the direction of cutter rotation relative to the workpiece feed, the resulting surface-finish quality, and the operational requirements regarding machine precision and workpiece stability. Figure 1 is an example of milling:

This article will discuss both climb and conventional milling, comparing their merits and demerits to help you make an informed decision tailored to your specific machining needs.

What Is Climb Milling?

Climb milling, also referred to as down milling, is a machining process in which the cutter and the workpiece move in the same direction during cutting. This results in the chip starting thick and thinning out. This technique aligns the cutter rotation with the feed direction which can improve surface finish and extend tool life due to the reduced heat from thinner chips. However, it requires a stable setup to handle the pulling forces that might otherwise displace the workpiece.

Advantages of Climb Milling

Climb milling offers several notable advantages in machining, such as:

  1. The cutting action in climb milling tends to create a smoother surface on the workpiece. This is because the cutter meets the material at its utmost thickness, gradually thinning the chip. This minimizes tool deflection and results in a cleaner cut.
  2. There is less stress and deflection on the tool since the cutting forces in climb milling are directed downwards and there’s a gradual decrease in chip thickness. This can result in lower heat generation and less wear on the cutting tool, thereby extending its service life.
  3. Climb milling can be more efficient in terms of energy consumption. The cutting action is typically more continuous and requires less energy. This can be beneficial when machining tough materials or operating under power constraints.
  4. The nature of climb milling tends to pull the workpiece into the cutter and the table. This can help stabilize the material during the cutting process and reduce vibration.
  5. As the tool cuts the material, chips are evacuated behind the cutter, reducing the likelihood of recutting chips. This can improve tool life and surface finish.
  6. The downward forces exerted in climb milling help stabilize the workpiece against the machine table. This is beneficial for reducing vibrations and simplifying workholding requirements, especially in horizontal milling setups.
  7. Climb milling can reduce work hardening of the material being machined. This is particularly advantageous when machining harder materials that are susceptible to hardening due to heat generated by machining.
  8. The progressive thinning of chips helps in pulling heat away from the workpiece with the chips. This is beneficial for maintaining the integrity of the workpiece material and the tool.
  9. With reduced cutting resistance and better chip evacuation, climb milling allows for higher feed rates and faster machining speeds without compromising the tool life or the quality of the finish.
  10. The downward forces exerted in climb milling help keep the workpiece firmly placed. This reduces the likelihood of deflection especially when machining thinner or more flexible materials.

Disadvantages of Climb Milling

Climb milling, despite its advantages, also has several disadvantages that need to be considered, including:

  1. In climb milling, the cutter tends to pull the workpiece towards itself. If the machine has any backlash (play between the machine’s feed screw and nut), this can lead to inaccuracies in the size or finish of the milled part, or even cause the cutter to "jump".
  2. Climb milling can cause the workpiece to be pulled into the cutter, potentially leading to movement or chatter.
  3. Because the cutting forces in climb milling can pull the workpiece into the cutter, there is an increased risk of tool breakage, especially with tough materials or when deep cuts are taken.
  4. If not properly controlled, the pulling force in climb milling can cause the cutter to dig into the workpiece, potentially damaging both the tool and the part being machined. This is especially a concern when working with softer materials or thin workpieces.
  5. The initial engagement of the tool in climb milling is at maximum chip thickness, which can result in higher cutting forces. This can overload older or less-robust machines, leading to deflection, inaccuracy, or mechanical stress.

What Is Conventional Milling?

Conventional milling, or up milling, is a machining process in which the cutter rotates against the direction of the feed. As the workpiece moves toward the cutter, chips are formed starting thin and becoming thicker. This method tends to exert an upward force on the workpiece, which can lead to issues with fixture stability. However, it is less likely to cause the workpiece to be pulled into the cutter, making it safer for less-rigid setups. Conventional milling is generally preferred when dealing with workpieces or fixtures that are less sturdy or when backlash is a concern. This is because it minimizes the risk of tool damage and workpiece displacement. Additionally, it's often used in manual milling operations due to its operational safety and simplicity.

Advantages Of Conventional Milling

Conventional milling offers several advantages that make it suitable for specific machining contexts, such as:

  1. In conventional milling, the cutting force is directed upwards, which means the tool is less likely to be pulled into the workpiece. This provides greater control over tool deflection, reducing the likelihood of unintentional deep cuts and improving the overall stability of the operation.
  2. For materials that are prone to chattering or tearing, conventional milling can be advantageous because the tool encounters less resistance at the beginning of the cut. This gradual increase in chip thickness helps to stabilize the cut and reduce vibrations, resulting in smoother operation on certain types of materials.
  3. Conventional milling can be performed on older or less advanced machines that might not have the capability to handle the dynamics of climb milling, especially in terms of backlash compensation. 
  4. Since the cutting force tends to lift the workpiece, conventional milling is generally safer when the workpiece cannot be securely clamped. This can prevent the workpiece from being pulled under the cutter, which is a common issue in climb milling if the fixture is not strong enough.
  5. When milling harder materials, conventional milling's approach of chip formation—from thin to thick—can be beneficial. It allows the tool to start cutting with less force, reducing the initial impact and wear on the tool, and gradually increasing the depth of cut, which can help in managing heat and stress on the tool.
  6. There is a lower risk of tool breakage compared to climb milling due to the nature of the cutting force, which pushes the tool away from the workpiece rather than pulling it in.
  7. Conventional milling is particularly advantageous for tough, hard, or brittle materials, as well as for operations requiring careful control of cutting forces, such as when machining forgings or castings with surface irregularities.
  8.  For manual milling operations where electronic backlash compensation is not available, conventional milling is often preferable because it inherently compensates for backlash in the lead screws of the machine, helping to maintain accuracy and reduce wear and tear on the machine components.

Disadvantages Of Conventional Milling

Conventional milling, or up milling, has several disadvantages that may affect its efficiency and effectiveness in certain machining applications, including:

  1. In conventional milling, the chip starts thin and thickens, typically resulting in a rougher surface finish than what is seen with climb milling. This is because the cutter tends to rub against the workpiece before cutting, which can mar the surface.
  2.  The cutter in conventional milling tends to rub against the workpiece before it starts cutting, as it moves from no contact to full depth. This rubbing action can cause increased heat and friction, leading to faster wear and tear on the tool.
  3. As the cutting tool rubs against the workpiece, more heat is generated. This not only affects the tool's life but can also lead to thermal expansion of the workpiece and tool, potentially affecting the dimensional accuracy and integrity of the part being machined.
  4. The cutting forces in conventional milling push the workpiece away from the tool and the cutter upward. This can lead to deflection of the workpiece or the tool, especially if either is not rigidly supported, which can compromise accuracy and lead to dimensional inaccuracy.
  5. Since the cutting forces tend to lift the workpiece, stronger clamping forces are required to hold the workpiece down securely. This can complicate the setup and may require more robust or numerous clamping mechanisms to prevent movement during the milling process.
  6. The direction of chip ejection in conventional milling is towards the cutter path. Chips may not clear effectively from the cutting zone and can be recut by the cutter, which can degrade the surface finish and further wear the tool.
  7. Conventional milling is often less efficient compared to climb milling in terms of material removal rates. Because the cutting action fights against the feed, it can be less effective in quickly removing large amounts of material, particularly on more modern CNC machines designed to handle the dynamics of climb milling.

Key Differences Between Climb Milling And Conventional Milling

The key differences between climb milling and conventional milling boil down to this: 

  1. Cutting Direction and Chip Formation: In climb milling, the cutter rotates in the same direction as the feed. This means the cutting force is directed downward, aligning the chips' formation with the cutter’s movement. As a result, chips start thick and thin out, which minimizes wear on the cutting edge. Conversely, the cutter rotates against the direction of the feed with conventional milling. This setup leads to a scenario where the cutting force acts upward, initiating chip formation that is thin and grows thicker. This can increase friction, heat, and wear on the cutting tool due to the greater resistance encountered at the start of each cut.
  2. Tool Engagement and Cutting Forces: In climb milling, the tool engages with the material at maximum chip thickness and exerts a downward force. This stabilizes the workpiece but requires a rigid setup to prevent displacement. Conversely, with conventional milling, the tool engages at a minimum chip thickness, with forces that gradually increase and can lift the workpiece, demanding strong clamping.
  3. Surface Finish and Tool Life: Climb milling often produces a superior surface finish because the cut starts with the largest chip thickness and ends with the smallest, thereby exerting less force on the material at the point of exit. This smooth transition typically reduces the tearing of the material surface. Conventional milling, on the other hand, is more likely to yield a rougher finish due to the potential for greater tool deflection and the chance of recutting chips that are not ejected efficiently from the cutting area.
  4. Impact on Machine Performance and Stability: Climb milling demands precise machinery capable of handling its downward cutting forces without causing backlash. This is ideal for newer CNC machines with backlash compensation. Conventional milling is less dependent on machine precision. It is better suited for older machines or those with potential backlash effects but may require more extensive work holding to counteract lifting forces during cutting.
  5. Tool Wear: Climb milling typically sees less wear on the tool due to the consistent cutting load and efficient chip removal. The process also generally operates at cooler temperatures, further extending tool life. Conventional milling on the other hand, tends to have more tool wear due to the high-friction environment created by the tool engaging the workpiece with minimal cutting action at first, then gradually increasing to full engagement.
  6. Safety and Control: While offering numerous benefits, climb milling can potentially pull the cutter into the workpiece if not properly controlled or if the machine exhibits backlash, posing safety risks. Conventional milling provides more control over the cutting process, as the cutter tends to be pushed out of the workpiece, reducing the likelihood of aggressive, unintended cuts.

Factors To Consider When Choosing Between Climb Milling And Conventional Milling

Some factors should be considered before choosing between climb milling and conventional milling. Here are some of the key factors to consider:

  1. Material Being Machined: The hardness and ductility of the material play crucial roles in determining the milling approach. Climb milling is typically preferred for hard, stable materials as it can provide a cleaner cut and better finish. However, softer or more pliable materials might be more appropriate for conventional milling to prevent the material from being pulled or distorted. The surface condition of the material can also influence the choice. For example, materials with scale or an uneven surface may be better approached with conventional milling to avoid aggressive engagement of the tool.
  2. Machine Capabilities and Rigidity: The stability and precision of the milling machine are vital. Climb milling requires a machine with high rigidity and minimal backlash to handle the directional forces that can pull the workpiece. Conventional milling, being less demanding in terms of directional forces, can be used on machines that are older or less rigid. This makes it suitable for setups that cannot tolerate significant pulling forces.
  3. Tool Geometry and Condition: The shape and sharpness of the cutting tool must also be considered. Climb milling can extend the life of a tool with optimal geometry and condition by reducing the thermal and mechanical stress during cutting. However, if the tool is not in ideal condition or is not perfectly suited for climb milling (e.g., a worn tool), conventional milling might provide more reliable results despite the increased wear.
  4. Surface Finish Requirements: If the final product requires a high-quality surface finish, climb milling is often the better choice due to its ability to cut cleanly through the material. Conventional milling might result in a rougher finish due to the initial rubbing or sliding action against the workpiece.
  5. Workpiece Stability and Fixturing: The method of securing the workpiece and its inherent stability are critical factors in choosing the right milling technique. Conventional milling, with the tool rotating clockwise and cutting against the direction of the feed, can push the workpiece upward due to the orientation of the cutter’s flutes. The flutes strike the material from the bottom, pushing upwards as the chip thickness increases, which can cause the workpiece to lift. This lifting force necessitates strong fixturing to prevent movement during machining. Moreover, as the chips are deposited in front of the cut, there's a higher likelihood of recutting the chips, leading to increased tool wear and potentially reducing surface quality. On the other hand, climb milling can pull the workpiece into the cutter if not adequately secured, requiring robust clamping to maintain position. Hence, conventional milling might be more suitable for lighter or less stable workpieces that cannot withstand the directional forces of climb milling.
  6. Cutting Depth and Width: Deep cuts might be more manageable with conventional milling, as the cutting force helps maintain tool stability and control. Climb milling can be more suitable for shallow, fine cuts that require a superior finish.

Best Practices For Climb Milling And Conventional Milling

The best practices for climb milling and conventional milling are as follows:

  1. Proper Tool Selection and Setup: For both climb and conventional milling, selecting the right tool is crucial. In climb milling, tools with positive rake angles are preferred to reduce cutting resistance and enhance chip evacuation. This is because this method involves a thick-to-thin chip formation. For conventional milling, tools need to be robust enough to handle the stresses of starting the cut with a thin chip. This can increase toward the end of the cut. Ensuring that tools are sharp, and properly set up is essential to maximize performance and minimize tool wear in both methods.
  2. Optimization of Cutting Parameters: Optimizing feed rates, cutting speeds, and depth of cut is vital for both methods but for different reasons. In climb milling, higher feed rates can be used effectively due to efficient chip load distribution. This helps in reducing heat and improving surface finish. In conventional milling, more conservative settings are often necessary to manage the increasing chip thickness and to prevent tool breakage or excessive heat buildup. Both methods benefit from a careful balance of these parameters to achieve optimal machining performance.
  3. Use of Coolant and Lubrication: The application of coolant plays a significant role in both milling processes. In climb milling, coolant helps in managing the heat generated from the efficient, consistent cutting action. For conventional milling, coolant is also crucial but more so to reduce the friction caused by the cutter's initial contact with the material. This can otherwise lead to premature tool wear and poor surface finishes. Properly applied coolant or lubrication ensures smoother cuts and prolongs tool life in both techniques.
  4. Monitoring of Machining Process: Continuous monitoring is key to successful milling operations. In climb milling, it's important to watch for any signs of tool wear or workpiece displacement due to the significant lateral forces involved. For conventional milling, monitoring is essential to detect any lifting of the workpiece or excessive tool wear. These are common issues due to the nature of the cutting force direction. Adjustments may be needed in real-time to address these issues in both methods.
  5. Regular Maintenance of Equipment: Regular and thorough maintenance of milling equipment is essential regardless of the milling method used. For climb milling, maintaining minimal backlash and ensuring overall machine rigidity is crucial due to the pulling forces exerted. In conventional milling, the focus should be on the machine's ability to handle upward forces that could lift the workpiece. Regular checks and maintenance help in maintaining the accuracy and longevity of the milling operations for both climb and conventional milling.


This article presented climb and conventional milling, explained each of them, and discussed their key differences. To learn more about climb and conventional milling, contact a Xometry representative.

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Xomety X
Team Xometry
This article was written by various Xometry contributors. Xometry is a leading resource on manufacturing with CNC machining, sheet metal fabrication, 3D printing, injection molding, urethane casting, and more.

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